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ZeldAnTales Tom Nook
Number of posts : 2909 Location : Caro, MI Coins : 396
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:20 pm | |
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Streex Admin
Number of posts : 4373 Location : Rocklin, California Coins : 3690
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:37 pm | |
| Kinda bummed by all of this. We get compensated with a bunch of old games? How about the option to grab 2 new retail 3DS titles? I own most of those old titles already.
Seems like with PSVita coming out at $250 this was a necessary move. I think Nintendo's perfect portable record is gonna be challenged this generation. | |
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Antilles TJ Combo
Number of posts : 1555 Coins : 3202
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:03 pm | |
| - Streex wrote:
- I think Nintendo's perfect portable record is gonna be challenged this generation.
Not anymore. This price drop was a kick in Sony's teeth. (In response to Sony's sucker-punch price announcement.) This will hurt them more than might be readily apparent, given that their $250 price tag was probably already leaving them at a loss instead of profit. I think Sony's out of the running again. As for the 20 games, it's true that it's not an amazing deal. Yes, it's kind of Nintendo to do something like this, given that companies like Apple, Microsoft, and Sony don't bat an eyelash at screwing early adopters. That said, they're basically selling us 20 old games not of our choice for $3.50 apiece. As awesome as some of them were back in their day, odds are I won't even touch most of them. Again, though, they didn't have to do anything. At least they are trying to reward their faithful fans. | |
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ZeldAnTales Tom Nook
Number of posts : 2909 Location : Caro, MI Coins : 396
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:34 pm | |
| Yeah but you and the rest of us all know that this was a cheap way out. As Streex said- these are all old games we have played bazillions of times before. To me, this is more about staying current than "being nice to early adopters" or "beating Sony." To me, they are mega worried about iPhones and Androids, and want the download service of the eShop to start holding sway rather than the 3D gimmick.
I have read and seen commercials from Europe that don't even bring up the 3D feature, they dismiss it completely!
How about even just a Starfox 3d demo cart, or better, Mario 3D Land demo cart. I would even accept a single level as compensation!!! But 20 games I've played and own (in both portable an VC releases) just screams of... NOTHING. | |
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Antilles TJ Combo
Number of posts : 1555 Coins : 3202
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:42 pm | |
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Triz Moogle
Number of posts : 1086 Location : Sacramento California Coins : 3650
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:58 pm | |
| I'll take the free games, but Id rather have the $80 bucks back. Why not do what apple did when iphone came down a hundred bucks 2 months afer release and give us a giftcard to the eshop. Let us pick the games? | |
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ZeldAnTales Tom Nook
Number of posts : 2909 Location : Caro, MI Coins : 396
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:58 pm | |
| You can buy a copy for like $10 online. | |
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Matthew999 Yoshi
Number of posts : 341 Location : Western Australia, Australia Coins : 709
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:31 am | |
| Personally I'm very happy with what Nintendo is doing. I accepted there would be a price drop but I didn't expect to get anything in return for it! It also helps that I don't own any GBA games at all and they have picked some games I'm very interested in playing. And the 20 games are better value than the $100 price drop Australians get since GBC games are $9 on the eshop and GBA games would most likely be $12 and Nintendo is giving it to us for $5 each. NES games would be $6 minimum at least too. Out of the list I only own Super Mario Bros and I don't mind having an extra copy on 3DS. | |
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Streex Admin
Number of posts : 4373 Location : Rocklin, California Coins : 3690
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:40 pm | |
| Even though I got most of those games, it is good that they are actually giving out the 20 games. Nintendo never does that kind of stuff.
I find it funny that this was the way they announced GBA games were coming...through a humble price cut announcement. | |
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Triz Moogle
Number of posts : 1086 Location : Sacramento California Coins : 3650
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:20 pm | |
| Read today that Iwata took a 50% pay cut cause of the preformance, and all executives had to take a 30% cut. Nintendo in trouble homies. | |
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Antilles TJ Combo
Number of posts : 1555 Coins : 3202
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:33 pm | |
| - Triz wrote:
- Read today that Iwata took a 50% pay cut cause of the performance, and all executives had to take a 30% cut. Nintendo in trouble homies.
Or perhaps, unlike many executives, they take responsibility for their failures. I don't think they're really in trouble. I do think they grossly miscalculated the appropriate price for the 3DS. Yeah, I'd rather have a gift card, too, but this will do okay. | |
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Triz Moogle
Number of posts : 1086 Location : Sacramento California Coins : 3650
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:23 pm | |
| I agree with them taking responsibilities, but with Wii-U on the table and not impressing along with the stock plumetting (its half what it was in March, even lower if you factor in longer terms.) Nintendo needs to really turn around the preformance of the 3ds to regain some momentum. Because I wouldnt be surprised if the wii U doenst sell well. | |
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Antilles TJ Combo
Number of posts : 1555 Coins : 3202
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:18 am | |
| Didn't the original DS lower stock, too? Also, I'd probably also want to take into account where Sony and Microsoft's stock is. Stock, in general, is in trouble right now. If our economy were better, the 3DS would probably have sold better. Everyone's having trouble, so the stock being at half might not be as bad as it sounds. Bad, maybe, but not catastrophic. | |
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ZeldAnTales Tom Nook
Number of posts : 2909 Location : Caro, MI Coins : 396
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:03 am | |
| Add to the stock the low performance of the yen and this makes pretty obvious sense. Nintendo isn't really in trouble money-wise, just strategy-wise. They need t re-think why the 3DS needs to be in everyones hands. The 3D alone doesnt cut it, we need games. This winter, all will return to normal. | |
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Antilles TJ Combo
Number of posts : 1555 Coins : 3202
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:22 pm | |
| Yeah, this may be the first launch in which they focused on quantity over quality. ...and most were apparently rushed to market, as they were followed up by... almost nothing. Thank you, Capcom. You may have saved the 3DS. | |
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Antilles TJ Combo
Number of posts : 1555 Coins : 3202
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:49 pm | |
| PA is at it again: http://www.penny-arcade.com/2011/8/1/ - Quote :
- I’ve made no secret of my struggles to integrate the Nintendo 3DS into the contours of an entire life. The machine is literally my son’s Pokedex - that’s all it gets used for. It’s very good at being that; I don’t want to seem like that’s nothing. But, considering the lineage, it’s starting to look like the blanged-out wastrel heir of a once great house.
They talk about the price cut, too. And they say the eshop is a mess? Also, there's a comic. | |
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ZeldAnTales Tom Nook
Number of posts : 2909 Location : Caro, MI Coins : 396
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:58 pm | |
| Well if the game is Dead or Alive Dimensions, Ocarina of Time, Mercenaries, Streetfighter my bet is on the 3DS owner. | |
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Triz Moogle
Number of posts : 1086 Location : Sacramento California Coins : 3650
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:42 pm | |
| I know you dont like hearing the argument, but There are 3 iphone games I bought for 99 cents that I have put more time into than any 3ds game. SO while its s shitty thing to hear, hes not lying. even if he got 37 shitty games those 3 good ones make up for it. | |
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ZeldAnTales Tom Nook
Number of posts : 2909 Location : Caro, MI Coins : 396
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:11 pm | |
| Well... just because you put more time into something doesn't make it more fun. | |
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Antilles TJ Combo
Number of posts : 1555 Coins : 3202
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:51 pm | |
| Yeah! It just means you always have your phone on you and little dinky 99 cent games are quick to pick up and put down in little moments of down time throughout the day. | |
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Streex Admin
Number of posts : 4373 Location : Rocklin, California Coins : 3690
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:30 pm | |
| Agreed. The iPhone games are more designed for short bursts/time killers. No matter how simple the game, the 3DS experiences last longer than 5 minutes. It's hard to put down the 3DS in just 5 minutes once you open it up to game. You can play an iphone game longer than a 3ds game easily by adding up all those spare moments. But a year from now, you won't remember those iPhone experiences quite like you will the 3DS experiences. | |
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Antilles TJ Combo
Number of posts : 1555 Coins : 3202
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:43 pm | |
| I initially thought RE:M was a short burst game. It turns out that was because I sucked and/or was on early levels. A 2 minute time limit by no means you're going to be done in less than 10! And then when you fail, of course, you immediately want to try again. You can find yourself playing that game for an hour while thinking you've only been at it for a few minutes.
I rambled off on a tangeant. Anyway, Re:M is still good for short bursts- I fit them in anywhere I can. It's still nowhere near the time I would spend on stupid phone games if I had such a technologically advanced phone. I've played Angry Birds and PvZ and the like, and they fill me with nowhere near the satisfaction RE:M does. | |
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Triz Moogle
Number of posts : 1086 Location : Sacramento California Coins : 3650
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:20 pm | |
| I still stand by the fact that Ive played Angry Birds, Bejewled Blitz, and Peggle, all for much longer than any 3ds game. Even in short bursts added up. | |
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ZeldAnTales Tom Nook
Number of posts : 2909 Location : Caro, MI Coins : 396
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:26 pm | |
| Well I stand by the opposite. I have put in more than 40 hours in RE:M. | |
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Antilles TJ Combo
Number of posts : 1555 Coins : 3202
| Subject: Re: 3DS a bigger failure than we thought? Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:28 pm | |
| - Triz wrote:
- I still stand by the fact that Ive played Angry Birds, Bejewled Blitz, and Peggle, all for much longer than any 3ds game. Even in short bursts added up.
You keep standing over there, then. We.... didn't argue. We just said it wasn't as fun as RE:M. (Well, Z might have included a coupla fighting games and Ocarina.) Yes- we can tell you how much fun you had or didn't have. Don't try to deny it! | |
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